FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor vs Trojan armoured engineer vehicle

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FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor — licensed reference photograph

AEngineering & recovery

FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor

Armoured combat engineering vehicle

Credit

CET_02.jpg : davric derivative work: Hohum ( talk ) · Public domain · Resized · Public domain · Source ↗ · Modified

Trojan armoured engineer vehicle — licensed reference photograph

BEngineering & recovery

Trojan armoured engineer vehicle

Combat engineering vehicle

Credit

MoD/Crown Copyright · OGL v1.0 · Resized · OGL v1.0 · Source ↗ · Modified

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At a glance

Side by side

Length comparisonOne shared metre scale

FV180 Combat Engineer TractorLength

7.54 m

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Trojan armoured engineer vehicleLength · source measurement 2

11.5 m

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Lengths retain their source configuration and measurement scope.

FV180 Combat Engineer Tractorlarger figure on 2 of 4

Measured figures

Head to head

16 of 30 rows sourced on both sides

7.54m

11.5mLength · source measurement 2

Length

All recorded figures & sources

7.54 m

Length

Single source

7.54 m (24 ft 9 in)^[source]

Configuration

Details

FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor and Trojan armoured engineer vehicle configuration
Specification	FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor	Trojan armoured engineer vehicle
Type	Armoured combat engineering vehicle^[source]	Combat engineering vehicle^[source]
Place of origin	United Kingdom^[source]	United Kingdom^[source]
In service	British Army , Indian Army , Singapore Army^[source]	2007–present^[source]
Armour	Honeycombed twin skin aluminium alloy

Main armament	None (Crew armed with personal weapons only)^[source]	7.62 mm L94A1 (remote controlled)^[source]

Power/weight	19 hp/tonne^[source]	19.2 hp/t (14.2 kW/t)^[source]

Suspension	Torsion bar^[source]	Hydropneumatic^[source]

Former operator · United Kingdom	United Kingdom^[source]	—

Source measurement	The two crew sit in tandem positions on the left hand side of the vehicle, each with a set of driving controls facing opposite directions. A large earthmoving bucket is fitted at the rear of the vehicle and a rocket-propelled anchor on a 100m hawser attached to an 8 tonne winch can be fitted to the front. When operated from the rear seat the bucket is used for earth moving; clearing obstacles, paths or digging tank or gun pits and anti-tank ditches. When operated from the front-facing seat it can be driven on the road, and the anchor can be used to pull the CET up steep obstacles such as riverbanks. The winch rope can be deployed to the front or the rear of the vehicle with a maximum pull of 8 tonnes in both configurations.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage An Auxiliary Lifting Attachment (ALA) - a davit with a winch rope roller - fitted to the inside of the earthmoving bucket was used for lifting loads of up to 4tonnes. Loads such as Medium Girder Bridge pallets could be lifted vertically to a height of 1.8m. This then allowed a cargo vehicle to back under the suspended load, the CET could not travel or turn with a suspended load on the ALA due to lateral weakness of the ALA and the proximity of the load to the earthmoving bucket. Use of the ALA was discontinued in the 1990s due to difficulties in annual testing of the safe working load, and a reduced requirement for its use.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage The amphibious propulsion is provided by two Dowty water impellers, one mounted on each side of the vehicle and controlled by the commander in the rear seat facing forwards. The water jets are used to steer the vehicle when swimming, this is with the use of movable cowls directing the flow of water. When not in use, the propulsion unit water intakes are closed off with armoured covers to prevent damage during digging operations. Flotation aids are required to trim the vehicle for swimming and a "wash board" is fitted to the front of the vehicle to prevent the bow wave flooding the crew compartment when entering water. Maximum speed in water is 8.5 knots, the vehicle will wade in 1.8m of water and requires preparation for operating in deeper water than this as it achieves buoyancy. FV180 can tow a "Giant Viper" anti-mine system. It can be airlifted by a C-130 Hercules aircraft.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage In 2013 the CET was replaced in British service by a new, larger vehicle: the 30 tonne Terrier armoured digger . This is better protected, equipped with night vision and can be remotely operated if required in more hazardous circumstances.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · History; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage	—

Source measurement

The two crew sit in tandem positions on the left hand side of the vehicle, each with a set of driving controls facing opposite directions. A large earthmoving bucket is fitted at the rear of the vehicle and a rocket-propelled anchor on a 100m hawser attached to an 8 tonne winch can be fitted to the front. When operated from the rear seat the bucket is used for earth moving; clearing obstacles, paths or digging tank or gun pits and anti-tank ditches. When operated from the front-facing seat it can be driven on the road, and the anchor can be used to pull the CET up steep obstacles such as riverbanks. The winch rope can be deployed to the front or the rear of the vehicle with a maximum pull of 8 tonnes in both configurations.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

An Auxiliary Lifting Attachment (ALA) - a davit with a winch rope roller - fitted to the inside of the earthmoving bucket was used for lifting loads of up to 4tonnes. Loads such as Medium Girder Bridge pallets could be lifted vertically to a height of 1.8m. This then allowed a cargo vehicle to back under the suspended load, the CET could not travel or turn with a suspended load on the ALA due to lateral weakness of the ALA and the proximity of the load to the earthmoving bucket. Use of the ALA was discontinued in the 1990s due to difficulties in annual testing of the safe working load, and a reduced requirement for its use.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The amphibious propulsion is provided by two Dowty water impellers, one mounted on each side of the vehicle and controlled by the commander in the rear seat facing forwards. The water jets are used to steer the vehicle when swimming, this is with the use of movable cowls directing the flow of water. When not in use, the propulsion unit water intakes are closed off with armoured covers to prevent damage during digging operations. Flotation aids are required to trim the vehicle for swimming and a "wash board" is fitted to the front of the vehicle to prevent the bow wave flooding the crew compartment when entering water. Maximum speed in water is 8.5 knots, the vehicle will wade in 1.8m of water and requires preparation for operating in deeper water than this as it achieves buoyancy. FV180 can tow a "Giant Viper" anti-mine system. It can be airlifted by a C-130 Hercules aircraft.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

In 2013 the CET was replaced in British service by a new, larger vehicle: the 30 tonne Terrier armoured digger . This is better protected, equipped with night vision and can be remotely operated if required in more hazardous circumstances.^[source]FV180 Combat Engineer Tractor · History; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

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