Archer-class submarine vs Cakra-class submarine

Archer-class submarine — licensed reference photograph

ASubmarines

Archer-class submarine

Credit

David's World 2011 · CC BY-SA 2.0 · Resized · CC BY-SA 2.0 · Source ↗ · Modified

Cakra-class submarine — licensed reference photograph

BSubmarines

Cakra-class submarine

Attack submarine

Credit

Indonesian Navy · Public domain · Resized · Public domain · Source ↗ · Modified

First system

Second system

At a glance

Side by side

Length comparisonOne shared metre scale

Archer-class submarineLength

60.5 m

Length source ↗

Cakra-class submarineLength

59.5 m

Length source ↗

Lengths retain their source configuration and measurement scope.

Archer-class submarinelarger figure on 2 of 5

Length+2%
Draught+4%

Cakra-class submarinelarger figure on 3 of 5

Beam+2%
Complement+18%
Speed+42%

Counts only measures both sources give with the same scope. A larger figure is not a better system.

Measured figures

Head to head

15 of 26 rows sourced on both sides

60.5m

59.5m

Length+2%

All recorded figures & sources

60.5 m

Length

Single source

60.5 m (198 ft 6 in)^[source]

59.5 m

Length

Single source

59.5 m (195 ft 3 in)^[source]

6.1m

6.2m

Beam+2%

All recorded figures & sources

6.1 m

Beam

Single source

6.1 m (20 ft 0 in)^[source]

6.2 m

Beam

Single source

6.2 m (20 ft 4 in)^[source]

5.6mDraft

5.4mDraft

Draught+4%

All recorded figures & sources

5.6 m

Draft

Single source

5.6 m (18 ft 4 in)^[source]

5.4 m

Draft

Single source

5.4 m (17 ft 9 in)^[source]

1,500tSubmerged

1,285 tons surfaced 1,390 tons submerged

Displacement

All recorded figures & sources

1,500 tonnes

Submerged

Single source

1,400 tonnes

Surfaced

Single source

Surfaced: 1,400 t (1,400 long tons; 1,500 short tons) Submerged: 1,500 t (1,500 long tons; 1,700 short tons)^[source]

1,285 tons surfaced 1,390 tons submerged^[source]

Complement+18%

All recorded figures & sources

28 people

Complement

Single source

28^[source]

33 people

Complement

Single source

33^[source]

28km/hMaximum; Submerged

40km/hMaximum; Submerged

Speed+42%

All recorded figures & sources

28 km/h

Maximum; Submerged

Single source

15 km/h

Maximum; Surfaced

Single source

Surfaced: 8 kn (15 km/h; 9.2 mph) Submerged: 15 kn (28 km/h; 17 mph)^[source]

39.8 km/h

Maximum; Submerged

Single source

20 km/h

Maximum; Surfaced

Single source

—

15,200kmat 8 kn (15 km/h; 9.2 mph)

Range

All recorded figures & sources

15,200 km

at 8 kn (15 km/h; 9.2 mph)

Single source

8,200 nmi (15,200 km; 9,400 mi) at 8 kn (15 km/h; 9.2 mph)^[source]

Bars compare reported quantities only. A larger figure does not make a system better; configurations and test conditions differ.

Configuration

Details

Archer-class submarine and Cakra-class submarine configuration
Specification	Archer-class submarine	Cakra-class submarine
Power	—	4 x MTU 12V493 AZ80 GA31L diesel engines rated at 1.8 MW (2,400 hp ) 4 x Siemens alternators rated at 2,300 hp (1.7 MW ) 1 x Siemens motor rated at 3.4 MW (4,600 hp ) 1 x shaft^[source]
Builders	Kockums^[source]	Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft^[source]
Operators	Republic of Singapore Navy^[source]	Indonesian Navy^[source]
Preceded by	Challenger class^[source]	Whiskey class^[source]
Succeeded by	Invincible class^[source]	Nagapasa class^[source]
Completed	2^[source]	2^[source]
Active	2^[source]	1^[source]
Propulsion	2 × Hedemora diesel-electric engines 2 × Kockums v4-275R Sterling AIP units^[source]	—
Sensors & processing systems	FAS^[source]	Signaal Sinbad weapons control system Thomson-CSF Calypso, I-band surface search radar Atlas Elektronik CSU 3-2 active/passive search and attack sonar PRS-3/4 passive ranging^[source]
Armament	6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes for TP-617 heavy-weight torpedoes and Blackshark torpedoes 3 × 400 mm (16 in) torpedo tubes^[source]	8 × 533 mm (21 in) bow tubes 14 x AEG SUT torpedoes^[source]
Country of origin	Sweden^[source]	Germany^[source]Cakra class / Type 209-1300 development
Name	—	Cakra class^[source]
Built	—	1977–1981^[source]
In commission	—	1981–present^[source]
Lost	—	1^[source]
Type	—	Attack submarine^[source]
Endurance	—	50 days^[source]
Test depth	—	240 m (790 ft)^[source]
Electronic warfare & decoys	—	ESM : Thomson-CSF DR2000U^[source]

FORCETALLY

Loading the evidence…

Preparing your view.

Archer-class submarine

Cakra-class submarine

Power

—

4 x MTU 12V493 AZ80 GA31L diesel engines rated at 1.8 MW (2,400 hp ) 4 x Siemens alternators rated at 2,300 hp (1.7 MW ) 1 x Siemens motor rated at 3.4 MW (4,600 hp ) 1 x shaft^[source]

Builders

Kockums^[source]

Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft^[source]

Operators

Republic of Singapore Navy^[source]

Indonesian Navy^[source]

Preceded by

Challenger class^[source]

Whiskey class^[source]

Succeeded by

Invincible class^[source]

Nagapasa class^[source]

Completed

2^[source]

Active

2^[source]

1^[source]

Propulsion

2 × Hedemora diesel-electric engines 2 × Kockums v4-275R Sterling AIP units^[source]

—

Sensors & processing systems

FAS^[source]

Signaal Sinbad weapons control system Thomson-CSF Calypso, I-band surface search radar Atlas Elektronik CSU 3-2 active/passive search and attack sonar PRS-3/4 passive ranging^[source]

Armament

6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes for TP-617 heavy-weight torpedoes and Blackshark torpedoes 3 × 400 mm (16 in) torpedo tubes^[source]

8 × 533 mm (21 in) bow tubes 14 x AEG SUT torpedoes^[source]

Country of origin

Sweden^[source]

Germany^[source]Cakra class / Type 209-1300 development

Name

—

Cakra class^[source]

Built

—

1977–1981^[source]

In commission

—

1981–present^[source]

Lost

—

1^[source]

Type

—

Attack submarine^[source]

Endurance

—

50 days^[source]

Test depth

—

240 m (790 ft)^[source]

Electronic warfare & decoys

—

ESM : Thomson-CSF DR2000U^[source]