Palmaria (artillery) vs PCL-171: Specs Compared

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Palmaria (artillery)

Self-propelled howitzer

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PCL-171

Self-propelled howitzer

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At a glance

Side by side

Length comparisonOne shared metre scale

Palmaria (artillery)Length

11.474 m

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PCL-171Length

6.54–7 m

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Palmaria (artillery)larger figure on 4 of 7

Length+69%

Measured figures

Head to head

15 of 33 rows sourced on both sides

11.47m

6.54–7m

Length

All recorded figures & sources

11.474 m

Length

Single source

11.474 m (37 ft 8 in)^[source]

6.54–7 m

Length

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Configuration

Details

Palmaria (artillery) and PCL-171 configuration
Specification	Palmaria (artillery)	PCL-171
Type	Self-propelled howitzer^[source]	Self-propelled howitzer^[source]
Place of origin	Italy^[source]	China^[source]
Used by	See Operators^[source]	People's Liberation Army^[source]
Wars	Chadian–Libyan War First Libyan Civil War Second Libyan Civil War^[source]	—

No. built	235^[source]	—

Main armament	155 mm L/41 howitzer (30 rounds)^[source]	122 mm howitzer gun^[source]

Secondary armament	1x 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm machine gun in pintle mount^[source]	—

Power/weight	16.1 PS/tonne^[source]	—

Suspension	torsion bar^[source]	hydropneumatic suspension^[source]

Source measurement	The Palmaria is an Italian self-propelled howitzer using the 155 mm (6.1″) NATO -standard artillery calibre.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Lead; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage The primary armament is a 155 mm howitzer, with a secondary 7.62 mm machine gun or 12.7 mm machine gun on anti-aircraft mount and four 76 mm forward-facing smoke grenade dischargers on either side of the turret. The howitzer has an automatic loading system, providing a rate of fire of one round every 15 seconds or a burst-fire rate of three rounds every 25 seconds. The loader has 23 ready rounds, with seven more rounds stored in the hull. Including manual reloading of the charge, the overall firing rate is normally one round per minute for one hour. Intense firing is four rounds in one minute. Sustained fire is one round every three minutes for an indefinite period. A wide variety of 155 mm munitions are available, including specially developed Simmel rounds with a range of 24.7 km and rocket-assisted ones with a range of 30 km.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage The turret is hydraulic with manual backup, and has 360 degree rotation with elevation limits of -4 to +70 degrees. It has its own auxiliary power supply which conserves fuel for the main engine.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage The Palmaria is powered by a 750 hp MTU MB 837 Ea-500 (or 1,000 hp Ka-500) 4-stroke, turbocharged, 8-cylinder multifuel engine coupled to a Renk RK 304 transmission. The Palmaria has torsion bar suspension with seven roadwheels and five return rollers on either side. The drive sprocket is located at the rear while the adjustable idler sprocket is at the front.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage Libya was the first country outside Italy to adopt the Palmaria, initially ordering 210 in 1982. Their army's artillery strength in 2004 included 160 Palmaria. Several were destroyed during the First Libyan civil war as a result of multinational military intervention .^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Operational history; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage	The PCL-171 is an assault-vehicle-mounted, 122 mm self-propelled howitzer used by the Chinese People's Liberation Army Ground Force . The designation "PCL" is an acronym derived from pinyin ( Chinese : 炮车榴弹炮 ; pinyin : Pào Chē Liúdànpào ; lit. 'Gun Vehicle Howitzer').^[source]PCL-171 · Lead; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage It was designed as an even more mobile and lightweight platform to complement the PCL-161 , which is based on a larger truck chassis but also equipped with a 122 mm howitzer.^[source]PCL-171 · Development; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage The howitzer has a maximum firing range of 18–22 km (11–14 mi) with conventional ammunition and up to 27–40 km (17–25 mi) with extended range ammunition. Each vehicle can carry 28 rounds of 122 mm rounds, for a total of 168 rounds of rounds for a battery of 6 guns.^[source]PCL-171 · Design / Gun; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage Up to 28 projectiles are carried on the truck itself, reducing the need for an accompanying ammunition carrier.^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Carried projectiles Utilizing conventional loads, the gun can reach out to target areas some 14 miles away. Extended Range projectiles give it a reach out to 25 miles otherwise.^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Gun firing ranges by projectile

Source measurement

The Palmaria is an Italian self-propelled howitzer using the 155 mm (6.1″) NATO -standard artillery calibre.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Lead; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The primary armament is a 155 mm howitzer, with a secondary 7.62 mm machine gun or 12.7 mm machine gun on anti-aircraft mount and four 76 mm forward-facing smoke grenade dischargers on either side of the turret. The howitzer has an automatic loading system, providing a rate of fire of one round every 15 seconds or a burst-fire rate of three rounds every 25 seconds. The loader has 23 ready rounds, with seven more rounds stored in the hull. Including manual reloading of the charge, the overall firing rate is normally one round per minute for one hour. Intense firing is four rounds in one minute. Sustained fire is one round every three minutes for an indefinite period. A wide variety of 155 mm munitions are available, including specially developed Simmel rounds with a range of 24.7 km and rocket-assisted ones with a range of 30 km.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The turret is hydraulic with manual backup, and has 360 degree rotation with elevation limits of -4 to +70 degrees. It has its own auxiliary power supply which conserves fuel for the main engine.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The Palmaria is powered by a 750 hp MTU MB 837 Ea-500 (or 1,000 hp Ka-500) 4-stroke, turbocharged, 8-cylinder multifuel engine coupled to a Renk RK 304 transmission. The Palmaria has torsion bar suspension with seven roadwheels and five return rollers on either side. The drive sprocket is located at the rear while the adjustable idler sprocket is at the front.^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Design; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

Libya was the first country outside Italy to adopt the Palmaria, initially ordering 210 in 1982. Their army's artillery strength in 2004 included 160 Palmaria. Several were destroyed during the First Libyan civil war as a result of multinational military intervention .^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · Operational history; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The PCL-171 is an assault-vehicle-mounted, 122 mm self-propelled howitzer used by the Chinese People's Liberation Army Ground Force . The designation "PCL" is an acronym derived from pinyin ( Chinese : 炮车榴弹炮 ; pinyin : Pào Chē Liúdànpào ; lit. 'Gun Vehicle Howitzer').^[source]PCL-171 · Lead; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

It was designed as an even more mobile and lightweight platform to complement the PCL-161 , which is based on a larger truck chassis but also equipped with a 122 mm howitzer.^[source]PCL-171 · Development; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

The howitzer has a maximum firing range of 18–22 km (11–14 mi) with conventional ammunition and up to 27–40 km (17–25 mi) with extended range ammunition. Each vehicle can carry 28 rounds of 122 mm rounds, for a total of 168 rounds of rounds for a battery of 6 guns.^[source]PCL-171 · Design / Gun; only the objects and conditions stated in this passage

Up to 28 projectiles are carried on the truck itself, reducing the need for an accompanying ammunition carrier.^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Carried projectiles

Utilizing conventional loads, the gun can reach out to target areas some 14 miles away. Extended Range projectiles give it a reach out to 25 miles otherwise.^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Gun firing ranges by projectile

Name	Palmaria^[source]Palmaria (artillery) · literal own first infobox identity; no named upgrade or fitted configuration inferred	—

Manufacturer	OTO Melara^[source]	China NORth INdustries COrporation (NORINCO)^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · complete artillery vehicle contractor

In service	—	2020–present^[source]

Shell	—	122 mm (4.8 in)^[source]

Breech	—	Semi-automatic vertical wedge type breech block^[source]

Role	—	assault-vehicle-mounted, 122 mm self-propelled howitzer^[source]

O/A Length	—	22.1 ft 6.75 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Length 22.1 ft 6.75 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China \| 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."

O/A Length

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22.1 ft 6.75 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Length

22.1 ft 6.75 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China | 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."

O/A Width	—	7.1 ft 2.15 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Width 7.1 ft 2.15 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China \| 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."

O/A Width

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7.1 ft 2.15 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Width

7.1 ft 2.15 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China | 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."

O/A Height	—	7.8 ft 2.38 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Height 7.8 ft 2.38 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China \| 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."

O/A Height

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7.8 ft 2.38 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 · Structure · O/A Height

7.8 ft 2.38 meters^[source]NORINCO PCL-171 / 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer Vehicle / China | 2020 / "The PCL-171 complements existing mobile fire support solutions for China with its 6x6 wheeled arrangement and 122mm howitzer weapon."