Cessna T-41 Mescalero vs Morane-Saulnier MS.230

Cessna T-41 Mescalero — licensed reference photograph

ATrainer aircraft

Cessna T-41 Mescalero

Primary pilot trainer

Credit

US Air Force · Public domain · Resized · Public domain · Source ↗ · Modified

BTrainer aircraft

Morane-Saulnier MS.230

Elementary Trainer

First system

Second system

At a glance

Side by side

Length comparisonOne shared metre scale

Cessna T-41 MescaleroT-41C · Length

8.2 m

Length source ↗

Morane-Saulnier MS.230Length

6.942 m

Length source ↗

Lengths retain their source configuration and measurement scope.

Measured figures

Head to head

14 of 31 rows sourced on both sides

8.2mT-41C · Length

6.94m

Length

All recorded figures & sources

8.2 m

T-41C · Length

Single source

26 ft 11 in (8.20 m)^[source]

6.942 m

Length

Single source

6.942 m (22 ft 9 in)^[source]

10.92mT-41C · Wingspan

10.7m

Wingspan

All recorded figures & sources

10.92 m

T-41C · Wingspan

Single source

35 ft 10 in (10.92 m)^[source]

10.7 m

Wingspan

Single source

10.7 m (35 ft 1 in)^[source]

2.69mT-41C · Height

2.73m

Height

All recorded figures & sources

2.69 m

T-41C · Height

Single source

8 ft 10 in (2.69 m)^[source]

2.73 m

Height

Single source

2.73 m (8 ft 11 in)^[source]

1.1tGross; T-41C · Gross weight

1.2tGross; Gross weight

MassScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

618 kg

Empty; T-41C · Empty weight

Single source

1,134 kg

Gross; T-41C · Gross weight

Single source

1,363 lb (618 kg)^[source]

2,500 lb (1,134 kg)^[source]

834 kg

Empty; Empty weight

Single source

1,208 kg

Gross; Gross weight

Single source

one

Crew

All recorded figures & sources

one^[source]

2 people

Crew

Single source

2^[source]

232km/hMaximum; T-41C · Maximum speed

207km/hMaximum; at sea level

SpeedScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

232 km/h

Maximum; T-41C · Maximum speed

Single source

125 kn (144 mph, 232 km/h)^[source]

160 km/h

Cruise; Cruise speed

Single source

207 km/h

Maximum; at sea level

Single source

207 km/h (129 mph, 112 kn) at sea level^[source]

160 km/h (99 mph, 86 kn)^[source]

1,159kmT-41C · Range

579km

Range

All recorded figures & sources

1,159 km

T-41C · Range

Single source

626 nmi (720 mi, 1,159 km)^[source]

579 km

Range

Single source

579 km (360 mi, 313 nmi)^[source]

160kW

170kW

PowerScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

160 kW

T-41C · 1 × Continental IO-360-D Six-cylinder air-cooled horizontally-opposed piston engine

Single source

1 × Continental IO-360-D Six-cylinder air-cooled horizontally-opposed piston engine, 210 hp (160 kW)^[source]

170 kW

1 × Salmson 9AB 9-cylinder air-cooled radial piston engine

Single source

1 × Salmson 9AB 9-cylinder air-cooled radial piston engine, 170 kW (230 hp)^[source]

14.8m²T-41C · Wing area

19.7m²

Wing area

All recorded figures & sources

14.8 m²

T-41C · Wing area

Single source

159 sq ft (14.8 m 2 )^[source]

19.7 m²

Wing area

Single source

19.7 m 2 (212 sq ft)^[source]

5,200mT-41C · Service ceiling

5,000m

Service ceiling

All recorded figures & sources

5,200 m

T-41C · Service ceiling

Single source

17,000 ft (5,200 m)^[source]

5,000 m

Service ceiling

Single source

5,000 m (16,000 ft)^[source]

4.5m/sT-41C · 880 ft/min (

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Rate of climb

All recorded figures & sources

4.5 m/s

T-41C · 880 ft/min (

Single source

880 ft/min (4.5 m/s)^[source]

Bars compare reported quantities only. A larger figure does not make a system better; configurations and test conditions differ.

Configuration

Details

Cessna T-41 Mescalero and Morane-Saulnier MS.230 configuration
Specification	Cessna T-41 Mescalero	Morane-Saulnier MS.230
Type	Primary pilot trainer^[source]	Elementary Trainer^[source]
National origin	United States^[source]	—
Manufacturer	Cessna^[source]	Morane-Saulnier^[source]
Status	In service^[source]	—
Primary users	United States Air Force United States Army Indonesian Air Force Turkish Air Force^[source]	—
Number built	T-41A : 230 T-41B : 255 T-41C : 52 T-41D : 299^[source]	1000+^[source]
Manufactured	1964–1996^[source]	—
Introduction date	1964^[source]	—
Developed from	Cessna 172 Cessna R172^[source]	—
Capacity	three passengers^[source]	—
Propellers	2-bladed variable-pitch propeller^[source]	2-bladed fixed-pitch wooden propeller^[source]
Alternative designation	T-41 Mescalero^[source]	—
Primary user	—	Armée de l'Air Flight School, Reims, France^[source]
First flight	—	February 1929^[source]
Fuel capacity	—	220 L (58 US gal; 48 imp gal) jettison-able fuselage tank with a 22 L (5.8 US gal; 4.8 imp gal) centre-section gravity tank^[source]
Never exceed speed	—	260 km/h (160 mph, 140 kn)^[source]
Time to altitude	—	3,000 m (9,800 ft) in 11 minutes 18 seconds^[source]
Wing loading	—	61.3 kg/m 2 (12.6 lb/sq ft)^[source]
Power/mass	—	0.1429 kW/kg (0.0869 hp/lb)^[source]

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Cessna T-41 Mescalero

Morane-Saulnier MS.230

Type

Primary pilot trainer^[source]

Elementary Trainer^[source]

National origin

United States^[source]

—

Manufacturer

Cessna^[source]

Morane-Saulnier^[source]

Status

In service^[source]

—

Primary users

United States Air Force United States Army Indonesian Air Force Turkish Air Force^[source]

—

Number built

T-41A : 230 T-41B : 255 T-41C : 52 T-41D : 299^[source]

1000+^[source]

Manufactured

1964–1996^[source]

—

Introduction date

1964^[source]

—

Developed from

Cessna 172 Cessna R172^[source]

—

Capacity

three passengers^[source]

—

Propellers

2-bladed variable-pitch propeller^[source]

2-bladed fixed-pitch wooden propeller^[source]

Alternative designation

T-41 Mescalero^[source]

—

Primary user

—

Armée de l'Air Flight School, Reims, France^[source]

First flight

—

February 1929^[source]

Fuel capacity

—

220 L (58 US gal; 48 imp gal) jettison-able fuselage tank with a 22 L (5.8 US gal; 4.8 imp gal) centre-section gravity tank^[source]

Never exceed speed

—

260 km/h (160 mph, 140 kn)^[source]

Time to altitude

—

3,000 m (9,800 ft) in 11 minutes 18 seconds^[source]

Wing loading

—

61.3 kg/m 2 (12.6 lb/sq ft)^[source]

Power/mass

—

0.1429 kW/kg (0.0869 hp/lb)^[source]