152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20) vs ATAGS (howitzer)

AArtillery

152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20)

Heavy gun-howitzer

Credit

Vitaly V. Kuzmin · CC BY-SA 3.0 · Resized · CC BY-SA 3.0 · Source ↗ · Modified

ATAGS (howitzer) — licensed reference photograph

BArtillery

ATAGS (howitzer)

Towed Howitzer

Credit

DRDO, Government of India · GODL-India · Resized · GODL-India · Source ↗ · Modified

First system

Second system

At a glance

Side by side

152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20)larger figure on 0 of 1

None

ATAGS (howitzer)larger figure on 1 of 1

Calibre+2%

Counts only measures both sources give with the same scope. A larger figure is not a better system.

Measured figures

Head to head

16 of 60 rows sourced on both sides

8.18mwith limber; barrel pulled back

—

Length

All recorded figures & sources

8.18 m

with limber; barrel pulled back

Single source

8.18 m (26 ft 10 in) (with limber; barrel pulled back)^[source]

2.35m

—

Width

All recorded figures & sources

2.35 m

Width

Single source

2.35 m (7 ft 9 in)^[source]

2.27m

—

Height

All recorded figures & sources

2.27 m

Height

Single source

2.27 m (7 ft 5 in)^[source]

7.9ttravel

18tPreviously Now

MassScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

7,270 kg

combat

Single source

7,930 kg

travel

Single source

combat: 7,270 kg (16,030 lb) travel: 7,930 kg (17,480 lb)^[source]

12,000 kg

Mass

Single source

18,000 kg

Previously Now

Single source

Previously, 18 tonnes (18 long tons; 20 short tons). Now, 12 tonnes (12 long tons; 13 short tons).^[source]

—

6–8people

Crew

All recorded figures & sources

6–8 people

Crew

Single source

6-8^[source]

—

60–80km/h

Speed

All recorded figures & sources

18 km/h

Maximum; with 95 kW APU

Single source

60–80 km/h

Maximum; With towing vehicle Self propelled

Single source

With towing vehicle 60-80 km/h, Self propelled 18 km/h with 95 kW APU^[source]

17kmMaximum; Maximum firing range

80kmMaximum; Ramjet Shell

RangeScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

17.23 km

Maximum; Maximum firing range

Single source

17.23 km (10.7 mi)^[source]

> 45 km

Effective; >

Single source

48.074 km

Maximum; High Explosive Base Bleed Shell

Single source

80 km

Maximum; Ramjet Shell

Single source

>45 km^[source]

48.074 km (High Explosive Base Bleed Shell) 80 km ( Ramjet Shell )^[source]

4.41m

8.06mL/52

Barrel lengthScopes differ

All recorded figures & sources

4.24 m

bore

Single source

4.412 m

L/27.9 overall L/29 (without muzzle brake )

Single source

bore: 4.24 m (13 ft 11 in) L/27.9 overall: 4.412 m (10 ft) L/29 (without muzzle brake )^[source]

8.06 m

L/52

Single source

8,060 mm (317 in) L/52^[source]

152mmCaliber

155mmCaliber

Calibre+2%

All recorded figures & sources

152.4 mm

Caliber

Single source

152.4 mm (6 in)^[source]

155 mm

Caliber

Single source

155 mm^[source]

3–4rounds/min

Burst: 5 rounds in 60 sec. Improved to 6 rounds in 30 sec. Intense: 10 rounds in 2 min 30 sec Sustained: 60 rounds in 60 min

Rate of fire

All recorded figures & sources

3–4 rounds/min

Rate of fire

Single source

3–4 rounds per minute^[source]

Burst: 5 rounds in 60 sec. Improved to 6 rounds in 30 sec. Intense: 10 rounds in 2 min 30 sec Sustained: 60 rounds in 60 min^[source]

655m/s

—

Muzzle velocity

All recorded figures & sources

655 m/s

Muzzle velocity

Single source

655 m/s (2,150 ft/s)^[source]

Bars compare reported quantities only. A larger figure does not make a system better; configurations and test conditions differ.

Configuration

Details

152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20) and ATAGS (howitzer) configuration
Specification	152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20)	ATAGS (howitzer)
Type	Heavy gun-howitzer^[source]	Towed Howitzer^[source]
Place of origin	Soviet Union^[source]	India^[source]
Used by	See users^[source]	Armenian Ground Forces Indian Army^[source]
Wars	Winter War World War II Six-Day War Yom Kippur War^[source]	—
Designer	Design bureau of No. 172 Plant , headed by F. F. Petrov^[source]	Armament Research and Development Establishment (Project Director: RP Pandey) Tata Power SED Bharat Forge^[source]
Produced	1937–1947^[source]	2019^[source]
No. built	6,884^[source]	40^[source]
Shell	152×547mmR^[source]	—
Breech	interrupted screw^[source]	Screw type^[source]
Recoil	hydro-pneumatic^[source]	Electro-rheological/Magneto-rheological^[source]
Carriage	split trail^[source]	—
Elevation	−2°/65°^[source]	Servo based, -3/+75°^[source]
Traverse	58°^[source]	Servo based, ±25°, 25 m diameter^[source]
Manufacturer	Motovilikha Plants^[source]	Kalyani Strategic Systems Tata Advanced Systems^[source]
Designed	—	2013-2017^[source]
Action	—	Auto gun alignment and positioning^[source]
Feed system	—	Automatic ammunition handling including crane^[source]
Sights	—	Thermal sight Gunners display^[source]
Reported operators	Reported operator · Soviet Union Reported operator · Nazi Germany Reported operator · Finland Reported operator · UK Reported operator · USA Reported operator · Afghanistan Reported operator · Albania Reported operator · Algeria Reported operator · Bulgaria Reported operator · China Reported operator · Cuba Reported operator · Czechoslovakia Reported operator · Egypt Reported operator · Georgia Reported operator · East Germany Reported operator · Iraq Reported operator · North Korea Reported operator · Libya Reported operator · Mongolia Reported operator · Namibia Reported operator · Poland Reported operator · Romania Reported operator · Russia Reported operator · Somalia Reported operator · Syria Reported operator · Ukraine Reported operator · Vietnam	Reported operator · Armenia Reported operator · Armenian Ground Forces Reported operator · India Reported operator · Indian Army

FORCETALLY

Loading the evidence…

Preparing your view.

152 mm howitzer-gun M1937 (ML-20)

ATAGS (howitzer)

Type

Heavy gun-howitzer^[source]

Towed Howitzer^[source]

Place of origin

Soviet Union^[source]

India^[source]

Used by

See users^[source]

Armenian Ground Forces Indian Army^[source]

Wars

Winter War World War II Six-Day War Yom Kippur War^[source]

—

Designer

Design bureau of No. 172 Plant , headed by F. F. Petrov^[source]

Armament Research and Development Establishment (Project Director: RP Pandey) Tata Power SED Bharat Forge^[source]

Produced

1937–1947^[source]

2019^[source]

No. built

6,884^[source]

40^[source]

Shell

152×547mmR^[source]

—

Breech

interrupted screw^[source]

Screw type^[source]

Recoil

hydro-pneumatic^[source]

Electro-rheological/Magneto-rheological^[source]

Carriage

split trail^[source]

—

Elevation

−2°/65°^[source]

Servo based, -3/+75°^[source]

Traverse

58°^[source]

Servo based, ±25°, 25 m diameter^[source]

Manufacturer

Motovilikha Plants^[source]

Kalyani Strategic Systems Tata Advanced Systems^[source]

Designed

—

2013-2017^[source]

Action

—

Auto gun alignment and positioning^[source]

Feed system

—

Automatic ammunition handling including crane^[source]

Sights

—

Thermal sight Gunners display^[source]

Reported operators

Reported operator · Soviet Union
Reported operator · Nazi Germany
Reported operator · Finland
Reported operator · UK
Reported operator · USA
Reported operator · Afghanistan
Reported operator · Albania
Reported operator · Algeria
Reported operator · Bulgaria
Reported operator · China
Reported operator · Cuba
Reported operator · Czechoslovakia
Reported operator · Egypt
Reported operator · Georgia
Reported operator · East Germany
Reported operator · Iraq
Reported operator · North Korea
Reported operator · Libya
Reported operator · Mongolia
Reported operator · Namibia
Reported operator · Poland
Reported operator · Romania
Reported operator · Russia
Reported operator · Somalia
Reported operator · Syria
Reported operator · Ukraine
Reported operator · Vietnam

Reported operator · Armenia
Reported operator · Armenian Ground Forces
Reported operator · India
Reported operator · Indian Army